Sire Richard IV—As far as where to raise your kids in this environment, you already know that you must be patriarch of your domain, so that they have a moral authority established at home. This is primarily “where” they should be in this world.
I would also suggest home-schooling your kids, if that is allowed in the UK. I am in New England, where homeschooling is an option. Here, if you send your kid to the public schools (i.e.,state-funded), you can expect Junior to be fully immersed in an odd combination of Rainbow Wokery and ‘high-pressure academics’, whereby the standard of education is at times absurdly high while the standard of morality is nonexistent. Sometimes it works, but it produces ground-out hamburger patty humans who at best tend to only follow the velvet ropes through life.
The other option that is state-sanctioned here is home-schooling, which curiously allows the parent to educate in any of a variety of ways with hardly any state meddling at all. Some families band together and have ‘pods’ where they share the workload of education. Typically, pods are arranged around shared values between likeminded families.
And another option is to find a strong, traditionalist Church community, preferably one that has a school, and educate your kids there. Where I live in Massachusetts, we have exactly such a community, centered around an abbey. There is a traditional Catholic school—replete with uniforms, short haircuts, jackets and ties for boys, daily Latin mass and classes run by nuns and priests—all near the abbey. It’s a vibrant community that is like stepping back in time, besieged by the 21st century.
Can everyone who shares your concerns do this? I don’t know—it’s a tall order. I am always conflicted on whether one should stand their ground or head for the hills, in the face of this cultural erosion. There’s merits and pitfalls to either stance.
It seems you have much more space to breathe in America, almost anything outside of the liberal system is heavily critiqued and on the verge on being banned here.
However, I do believe that as things decline, that will conversely allow more options for autonomous communities, and I dare say more of a will amongst the people.
To be honest, exploring this topic is a big part of my plans for the future
My neighbouring towns have always been shit holes, but it's surprising to see this reaching into the sleepier corners of the country now.
The nice white places have always found it easy to ignore places like Rochdale and Oldham, I think privately dismissing us as a racist underclass who deserve everything we get. And so the frog was simmering nicely in towns like mine, until Boris came along and cranked up the hob too high.
Now it's everywhere, and those Guardian mums must face the same fears we have felt for years. That gives me some grim pleasure, I'm not going to lie.
We used to understand that schoolgirls need protection and firm guidance through those turbulent years, but then feminism came along to enlighten us.
I don't like Muslim headscarves at all, but looking around my town I must admit their management of female sexuality - while far from perfect - is less dysfunctional than sending out our teenage daughters to hang around street corners dressed like strippers.
I get that young girls will be young girls, and I don't blame them for being young. I just don't get why the fathers allow it.
I was saying to my wife things have noticeably worsened since the Boriswave, at least under Cameron it was mostly other Europeans.
I know what you're saying about Islam, they go too far but at least they're aware of female virtue, I too can't understand why modern girls fathers aren't standing up for their daughters. My only guess is a) they're degenerates b) they don't know/don't care c) aren't around anyway
Well said Richard. I have some of the exact same thoughts walking through parts of England. I walked through a little village called Menston last week and it's gorgeous, beautiful church, quintessential English village. There's a bloody Turkish barbers on the main street.
I agree that things will have to get significantly worse before they get better. And I, unlike many doomsayers, actually believe that the distant future is bright indeed. I think it's slowly, slowly, then all at once and were racing towards that point. Thanks again.
'Turkish barbers' - I know the ones. Fronts for some drug dealing operation no doubt. Of course, we're all supposed to ignore these cropping up everywhere
I completely know what you're talking about here Richard, regarding the 'race to the bottom' this country seems to be engaged in, to the lack of respect for any kind of law / father zeitgeist that is so clearly visible in people's behaviour, to the fears about where to raise your son.
My fatherhood days are gone, but I know that if I was looking to live somewhere as society crumbles, it would be where families felt safe, where standards are upheld and maintained through observance of the social contract.
I'm afraid to say the 'father' spirit in the culture has been replaced by a dopaminergic-based culture nowadays. I'm with Ed Dutton - it's possible to be quite reductive sometimes, and for me, this is one of those times. People's 'feelings', things that make them feel good, things that stimulate their bodies - this seems to drive so much behaviour, instead of an overarching culture to which such things are subordinate.
And it’s going to get worse and worse, not better. You just walk out your front door and you see it, the sense of decay, the town centres dying, the boarded up shops, charity shops, litter in the street, rubbish uncollected, pot holes, graffiti, etc. it’s like a ghost town.
And then there’s the demographics, having to be watchful about your surroundings, there’s a friction and tension in the air, looking over your shoulder every 30 seconds because you might get randomly jumped on and stabbed for no apparent reason, just for kicks.
In Africa there’s a saying ‘’ It takes a village to raise a child ! ‘’ Guardian reading Liberals love this phrase, but they don’t understand what it actually means. Africa is a polygamous society, the men go from village to village to village spreading their seed. So the women of the village actually do raise the children because the men folk are off in the next village. I think race hustler Darcus Howe had 7 children from 4 different women. Mizzy, the one man crime wave, TikTok prankster, he didn’t have a father, he was no where to be seen, his mother raised him.
I imagine that quote is one of those of unknown origin that the Guardianistas are happy to give to the Africans. As you say, they're not known for strong families and present fathers.
Also, I never knew that about Howe, he was unbearable.
They were on a Radio 4 discussion programme and Darcus played the Racist card on Joan. Well, she exploded and went ballistic, took his inventory. ‘’ How dare you, you left your wife and deserted your 3 children and took up with another women and now you’re complaining about your estranged relationship with your son ? You son of a bitch ! ‘’
She went full blitzkrieg, no prizes guessing who won that argument. Rivers goes way back to the 60s. She was in a Burt Lancaster film called The Swimmer, strange little film.
As always you are able to articulate so well what I feel intuitively but am not able to clearly express.
Sire Richard IV—As far as where to raise your kids in this environment, you already know that you must be patriarch of your domain, so that they have a moral authority established at home. This is primarily “where” they should be in this world.
I would also suggest home-schooling your kids, if that is allowed in the UK. I am in New England, where homeschooling is an option. Here, if you send your kid to the public schools (i.e.,state-funded), you can expect Junior to be fully immersed in an odd combination of Rainbow Wokery and ‘high-pressure academics’, whereby the standard of education is at times absurdly high while the standard of morality is nonexistent. Sometimes it works, but it produces ground-out hamburger patty humans who at best tend to only follow the velvet ropes through life.
The other option that is state-sanctioned here is home-schooling, which curiously allows the parent to educate in any of a variety of ways with hardly any state meddling at all. Some families band together and have ‘pods’ where they share the workload of education. Typically, pods are arranged around shared values between likeminded families.
And another option is to find a strong, traditionalist Church community, preferably one that has a school, and educate your kids there. Where I live in Massachusetts, we have exactly such a community, centered around an abbey. There is a traditional Catholic school—replete with uniforms, short haircuts, jackets and ties for boys, daily Latin mass and classes run by nuns and priests—all near the abbey. It’s a vibrant community that is like stepping back in time, besieged by the 21st century.
Can everyone who shares your concerns do this? I don’t know—it’s a tall order. I am always conflicted on whether one should stand their ground or head for the hills, in the face of this cultural erosion. There’s merits and pitfalls to either stance.
It seems you have much more space to breathe in America, almost anything outside of the liberal system is heavily critiqued and on the verge on being banned here.
However, I do believe that as things decline, that will conversely allow more options for autonomous communities, and I dare say more of a will amongst the people.
To be honest, exploring this topic is a big part of my plans for the future
Hi Richard, I know that feeling well.
My neighbouring towns have always been shit holes, but it's surprising to see this reaching into the sleepier corners of the country now.
The nice white places have always found it easy to ignore places like Rochdale and Oldham, I think privately dismissing us as a racist underclass who deserve everything we get. And so the frog was simmering nicely in towns like mine, until Boris came along and cranked up the hob too high.
Now it's everywhere, and those Guardian mums must face the same fears we have felt for years. That gives me some grim pleasure, I'm not going to lie.
We used to understand that schoolgirls need protection and firm guidance through those turbulent years, but then feminism came along to enlighten us.
I don't like Muslim headscarves at all, but looking around my town I must admit their management of female sexuality - while far from perfect - is less dysfunctional than sending out our teenage daughters to hang around street corners dressed like strippers.
I get that young girls will be young girls, and I don't blame them for being young. I just don't get why the fathers allow it.
I was saying to my wife things have noticeably worsened since the Boriswave, at least under Cameron it was mostly other Europeans.
I know what you're saying about Islam, they go too far but at least they're aware of female virtue, I too can't understand why modern girls fathers aren't standing up for their daughters. My only guess is a) they're degenerates b) they don't know/don't care c) aren't around anyway
Well said Richard. I have some of the exact same thoughts walking through parts of England. I walked through a little village called Menston last week and it's gorgeous, beautiful church, quintessential English village. There's a bloody Turkish barbers on the main street.
I agree that things will have to get significantly worse before they get better. And I, unlike many doomsayers, actually believe that the distant future is bright indeed. I think it's slowly, slowly, then all at once and were racing towards that point. Thanks again.
'Turkish barbers' - I know the ones. Fronts for some drug dealing operation no doubt. Of course, we're all supposed to ignore these cropping up everywhere
I completely know what you're talking about here Richard, regarding the 'race to the bottom' this country seems to be engaged in, to the lack of respect for any kind of law / father zeitgeist that is so clearly visible in people's behaviour, to the fears about where to raise your son.
My fatherhood days are gone, but I know that if I was looking to live somewhere as society crumbles, it would be where families felt safe, where standards are upheld and maintained through observance of the social contract.
I'm afraid to say the 'father' spirit in the culture has been replaced by a dopaminergic-based culture nowadays. I'm with Ed Dutton - it's possible to be quite reductive sometimes, and for me, this is one of those times. People's 'feelings', things that make them feel good, things that stimulate their bodies - this seems to drive so much behaviour, instead of an overarching culture to which such things are subordinate.
And it’s going to get worse and worse, not better. You just walk out your front door and you see it, the sense of decay, the town centres dying, the boarded up shops, charity shops, litter in the street, rubbish uncollected, pot holes, graffiti, etc. it’s like a ghost town.
And then there’s the demographics, having to be watchful about your surroundings, there’s a friction and tension in the air, looking over your shoulder every 30 seconds because you might get randomly jumped on and stabbed for no apparent reason, just for kicks.
In Africa there’s a saying ‘’ It takes a village to raise a child ! ‘’ Guardian reading Liberals love this phrase, but they don’t understand what it actually means. Africa is a polygamous society, the men go from village to village to village spreading their seed. So the women of the village actually do raise the children because the men folk are off in the next village. I think race hustler Darcus Howe had 7 children from 4 different women. Mizzy, the one man crime wave, TikTok prankster, he didn’t have a father, he was no where to be seen, his mother raised him.
I imagine that quote is one of those of unknown origin that the Guardianistas are happy to give to the Africans. As you say, they're not known for strong families and present fathers.
Also, I never knew that about Howe, he was unbearable.
YouTube ‘’ Darcus Howe Joan Rivers.’’
They were on a Radio 4 discussion programme and Darcus played the Racist card on Joan. Well, she exploded and went ballistic, took his inventory. ‘’ How dare you, you left your wife and deserted your 3 children and took up with another women and now you’re complaining about your estranged relationship with your son ? You son of a bitch ! ‘’
The elder black male victim meets the acerbic Jewess. Yowzer. I can imagine how that went down
She went full blitzkrieg, no prizes guessing who won that argument. Rivers goes way back to the 60s. She was in a Burt Lancaster film called The Swimmer, strange little film.